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I recommend doing more research on the so-called Blue Zone diets. The author is guilty of both cherry picking and misrepresenting what those people actually eat. For example, the Okinawans eat pork and fish with every meal yet the author attributes their longevity to a "plant-based" diet. The Okinawans also seem to be the only people in Japan whose ancestors never adopted a vegetarian diet.

https://benjamindavidsteele.wordpress.com/2019/05/28/blue-zones-dietary-myth/

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great link, thank you for posting it. "blue zones" LOL

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Produce is 95% of what I buy in the grocery store. And the last time I saw a doctor was after an injury in 2018. The doctor prescribed morphine pills for 3 days. The most old-fashioned, least-processed narcotic, and only as long as needed. Then the shoulder healed up fine without any surgery, just physical therapy. 64 and all systems functioning just fine. No prescription drugs since then. I don't remember the last time I used an OTC med, but at least 6 months. Going skiing next week! Paying for the trip with all the money I didn't spent on various "health care" deductibles, copays, and pills. I care for my own health, thank you.

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good advice from my dad ; do not eat anything your gramma would not recognize as food. Awful stores nowadays - everything packed in plastic that can leak into your food! when I was a kid sliced meats came in paper wrap. I don't remember much packed in plastic at the time, all bottles were glass, mayonaise came in glass... which shows I am about to get old LOL

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I think plastics can leech into foods - especially if mishandled...

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I recommend doing more research on the so-called Blue Zone diets. The author is guilty of both cherry picking and misrepresenting what those people actually eat. For example, the Okinawans eat pork and fish with every meal yet the author attributes their longevity to a "plant-based" diet. The Okinawans are also seem to be the only people in Japan whose ancestors never adopted a vegetarian diet.

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I would think it's the fish for Japanese or Okinawans and just having a balanced diet but not overeating with moderate physical activity... Mediterranean diets are also pretty well balanced...

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I suspect that it's a combination of whole foods (including pork), an active lifestyle, strong families and communities, with genetics perhaps playing the largest role in longevity. I can think of several people over the years who were believed to be the oldest person alive and who claimed the secret to their long life was whiskey and bacon! The French woman who may be the person who lived the longest drank champagne every day and smoked cigarettes until her doctors made her quit at the age of 118.

There also seems to be some evidence that several of those regions cited as having the most octogenarians may have some of the lowest life expectancies among their general population. So, once again, genetics.

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And there could be something unique to those reasons - literally in the water or air... Not sure if I have posted a meme with an Irish saying to the effect of doing everything in moderation - including drinking alcohol...

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absolutely. islanders' diet will be influenced by fish and a salt water-environment, while people in the mountains will have a different diet altogether. Europeans tend to eat butter, but in a tropical climate fat comes from coconuts. one shouldn't just transplant the natural, healthy diet from one geographical region to another, expecting the same health benefits.

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and context (aka natural environment). isn't there a strong correlation between health and diet based on locally produced foods?

half of the Mediterranian diet takes place in North-Africa: no pork! but sheep/lamb instead.

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Not just lamb but goat too! I've been told that goat meat is the most popular meat in the world. People in the USA just don't eat much of it and that's too bad. It's more versatile than lamb, beef or pork.

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It would probably be Muslims who mostly eat goat but I doubt as much as they eat lamb/mutton... Not too crazy about goat milk and the meat is a bit smelly :) Can't remember the last time I had goat cheese...

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The meat isn't smelly if it comes from a doe or a young wether. It's just those old bucks that are gamey. (Same with venison.) Goats milk is sweeter than cows milk when it's fresh, although I have found that the store-bought milk often as an off-flavor. Not sure why. As for goat cheese, I make my own and it's delicious. (Yes, I have a herd of dairy goats.)

Yes, goat meat is popular in the Middle East, but it's also popular in Central and South America (Mexicans are masters when it comes to cooking goat... birria!), in Africa (a traditional wedding feast in Nigeria features goat meat), India (goat curry!), Jamaica (jerked goat), and several European countries, especially Germany, Greece and Italy. In Sicily, you're more likely to find goat meat in your ragu than you are beef or lamb.

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my 2cents: when one doesn't like a certain food, it might not sit well with one's individual constitution, or one's genetic/cultural make-up. I can't eat olives (gag reaction), Indonesian friends dislike pizza (apparently they can't stomach the cheese very well).... and so on. we should recognise and respect the (warning)signs our body give off, after all nature is what nature does.

great post, thank you for all the work you do!

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Oh yes my mother and both grandmothers had huge gardens when I was a (slave labor) kid in the ‘70’s and 80’s. Both my grandmothers had a vegetable and flower garden until the day they died but much reduced. My mom and I both are avid gardeners and my mom actually is a Master Gardener with all the entailing duties to community that go along with it. And she will be 79 this year. (Yikes I’m getting there too!😳)

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"1945 - Americans grew 45% of their food in their backyard garden" says the meme. I can't find anything to verify this. I did find an assertion from the Smithsonian that " By May 1943, victory gardens supplied 40 percent of the produce in America.." "Produce" is just a subset of "food." And of course this was during WWII, when special efforts were underway.

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Except for wealthy people at that time, I think most people still planted some food in their yards (if they had yards) in space that otherwise might be used for lawns, roses, flowers, pavement for cars etc. today... Drive through any new suburb now and see how many fruit trees or edibles you see - probably not any... All ornamentals...

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